Regarding the Recent Blog Drama
This is a repost of something I posted over at PRCaldude's place (vicious nazi hatemonger that he is /wave ).
Neocon, paleocon, comicon...
I'm a dude. I like freedom. Not so much a fan of being told how to live by my government. Generally I think capitalism works.
Not a huge fan of huddling within our borders - I'd rather go on the
offensive, though that's not always the best option. The jury is still
out for me on the whole "nation building" thing. I'm still formulating
my opinions.
Dunno, really. The labeling thing seems a waste of time. "You're
just a nasty old X" where X is something I think I don't like seems to
be a way of avoiding honest discussion.
Folks on the "VB IS TEH NAZI! ZOMG!" side of the argument are
overzealous in their desire to keep the party ideologically pure (odd
echoes of Kos :shudder:). Folks on the "VB IS PERFECT AND INNOCENT"
side aren't (IMO) quite giving the issue the look they should.
To the "we have to fight the jihadists so we'll take who we can get"
folks ... um ... how, precisely, are we fighting the jihadists? How
does associating ourselves with a bunch of Swedish weirdos with a
sketchy past help us "fight" the jihadists? Arena of ideas and all that
sure ... but really ... meh.
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I just
can't get over how badly everyone freaked out over this. I mean ... I
barely noticed it the first time I saw it at LGF. Here's how it looked
to me.
Atlas Shrugged: We did this anti-jihad conference, which was AWESOME. Everyone should be like, totally into it.
Littlegreenfootballs: Some of the people there look like they've got some odd associations.
AS: OMG! WTF?!?! Charles <3s CAIR!!!oneEleven!1 LGF HATES FREEDOM AND LOVES SUPER PC LIBTARDS FOREVAR!
LGF: OMG! WTF??! ALL I DID WAS ASK TEH QUESTIONS! YOU'RE ALL RACISTS AND NAZIS AND BLAH!
Robert Spencer: Not that there WERE any Holocaust Denying racist
Nazis at the conference, but if there were, I'd utterly and completely
repudiate them. OH LOOK A PTERODACTYL! <vanish>
Internet straw poll: RON PAUL!!!!
AllahPundit: INDISCRIMINATE BAN HAMMER OF DOOM FOR RACISTS AND HATERS AND LIARS AND NAZIS!!1!
<mushroom cloud>
Godwin: Who went first now? I'm confused.
ALL: RACIST PC LOVING ZIONIST NAZI HATEMONGER RAR RAR RAR!
Sympathizers to various sides: I thought we KNEW those people, man.
They've like, totally betrayed the cause. (Insert faction of choice)
has really gone downhill.
Rest of the World: Huh?
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So, in summary, tempest, meet teapot. Or that's what it should have been. How this lunacy got so out of control over a bunch of reindeer loving iceback Scandis is beyond me. Seriously. It's like lutefisk inspires berserker rage. On the other hand, if I had to eat that crap, maybe I'd want to bust some heads too.
But really. Charles? Pamela? AllahPundit? EVERYONE? Have a ritalin. Have a shot. Have the quasi-legal depressant of your choice - but make sure that whatever it is, they come with huge freakin' CHILL PILLS.
"How does associating ourselves with a bunch of Swedish weirdos with a sketchy past help us "fight" the jihadists?"
I'm a few weeks late checking in...
Funny thing is that other than the fact that certain people showed up at a public conferences because of shared concerns, nobody was trying to directly associate with anybody. VB wasn't seeking U.S. support for anything and nobody from our end of the pond was seeking a VB association.
But since simply being German in heritage, or being anything conservative in Europe smacks of extremisim, everyone is somehow associated by blood or coincidence to someone who probably used to be a Nazi. This makes Americans like myself triple evil because I'm of both German and Flemish heritage, and I'm a political conservative. The fact I have no European ties other than my last name, not withstanding. So, yeah, this type of guilt by association is kind of a big deal.
Atlas Shrugs dropped the issue, but LGF couldn't let it go. AP at Hot Air got mad because certain posters where making his opinioins look weak, and he really doesn't like that. But rather than simply admit confusion and let the issue die both HA and LGF started booting people off their blogs.
So the big deal, really, is the ironic turn of events whereby the bloggers in question were alienating people in a most similar fashion as those they were speaking out against.
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I'd be interested to get Goldstein's take on the ideas expressed by these fellows.
In linguistics, the Sapir–Whorf hypothesis (SWH) postulates a systematic relationship between the grammaticalcategories of the language a person speaks and how that person both understands the world and behaves in it. Although known as the Sapir–Whorf hypothesis, it was an underlying axiom of linguist and anthropologistEdward Sapir and his colleague and student Benjamin Whorf.
The hypothesis postulates that a particular language's nature influences the habitual thought of its speakers. Different language patterns yield different patterns of thought.
Given how much Jeff talks about the use of language to shape a narrative, it could lead to some interesting discussions.
The hypothesis postulates that a particular language's nature influences the habitual thought of its speakers. Different language patterns yield different patterns of thought.
I wonder if this isn't backwards. I would argue that it is the cultural and habitual thought of the speaker that influences any given language. Consider how culturally influences such as slang eventually becomes a part of our language.
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Goldstein Nails it to the Wall
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The linked article at ProteinWisdom is one such instance. That ol' harmonic be a buzzin' and a' jumpin'.
Rather, it is simply to point out that, philosophically, at least, there is a vast area of intellectual overlap between the foundational principles informing most every totalitarian movement — and that, to many Muslims, bin Ladenism is a form of “progressivism,†though when placed in the paradigm of Islamic thinking, that “progressivism†leads backward rather than forward (and so to western eyes appears reactionary rather than radical — one of the reasons, one can argue, that it is frequently tied to social conservatism). Still, it is a kind of reform movement aimed at the excesses of capitalism and western liberalism — a way to control the natural diversity of outcome brought about when freedom is allowed to govern in fact (instead of being worn like a friendly facade) — and in its core foundational assumptions finds common cause with other material manifestations of those same principles.
Which is why, I suppose, bin Laden sounds so much like Chomsky. The only difference is the godhead and the place of worship.
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One might argue that much of our own 'progressive' confusion stems from Thomas Jefferson's neutral views on religion in culture and politics.
Jefferson was very much a champion of religious freedom, but he was also a champion of generic religion. His views on separation of church and state are most often misinterpreted to say that he didn't embrace religion in politics, which is not what he was doing. Yet, his support of religion was as much philosophical as it was theological.
Ironically, the progressives here in our culture are often the most like the progressive Bin Ladens of other cultures. Any wonder why our progressives are more interested in fighting the 'fundamentalist' Christians within American politics than they are in fighting Muslim terrorist in the Middle East?
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IT was just after midnight when the 69th Squadron of Israeli F15Is crossed the Syrian coast-line. On the ground, Syria’s formidable air defences went dead. An audacious raid on a Syrian target 50 miles from the Iraqi border was under way.
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I really do enjoy Jeff Goldstein's blogging at Protein Wisdom. The man has a knack for turn of phrase that I find just delightful.
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Almost everyone had an opinion on the war from the outset, and many have spent their time since looking for reasons to justify their gut opinion.
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Beyond his policies and actions, history will take the measure of the man.
I have known George W. Bush for nearly 34 years and have had the privilege of watching from nearby as history has placed its demands on him and our country. I know his humility and decency, his intelligence and thoughtfulness, his respect for every person he comes in contact with, his unwavering commitment to principle-based decision-making, and the quiet and compassionate hearts of the man and his graceful wife, Laura.
I have come to understand true leadership leans into the wind. It tackles big challenges with uncertain outcomes rather than taking on simple, sure tasks. It does what is right, regardless of what the latest poll or focus group says. History demands much of America and its leaders and I am confident it will judge the 43rd president as a man more than worthy of the great office the American people twice entrusted to him.
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